Comments on: snippets http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2009/06/25/snippets/ Blogging on Philosophy and Politics Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:09:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anti Citizen One http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2009/06/25/snippets/comment-page-1/#comment-798 Anti Citizen One Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:50:18 +0000 http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/?p=670#comment-798 It seems the logical extension of this is that freedom (generally speaking) is incompatible with the state, unless everyone agrees to "live and let live" (or another categorical imperative). But freedom must also allow for the possibility to reject this idea. It is a paradox at the heart of liberal societies and any other system of natural rights. I also am rather inclined to libertarian government systems but this is not really an "ideal" system, just a less restricted system; but to the extend it is a system, it still is anti-freedom. AC1 It seems the logical extension of this is that freedom (generally speaking) is incompatible with the state, unless everyone agrees to “live and let live” (or another categorical imperative). But freedom must also allow for the possibility to reject this idea. It is a paradox at the heart of liberal societies and any other system of natural rights.

I also am rather inclined to libertarian government systems but this is not really an “ideal” system, just a less restricted system; but to the extend it is a system, it still is anti-freedom.

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]]> By: El Sordo http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2009/06/25/snippets/comment-page-1/#comment-797 El Sordo Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:50:49 +0000 http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/?p=670#comment-797 "I choose to live in a society where I am free to make my choices... ban the burqa" Is this a paradox of liberty? (free to state ones opinion) or a paradox of those who seek liberty as a justification? (tyranny of the majority) “I choose to live in a society where I am free to make my choices… ban the burqa”

Is this a paradox of liberty?

(free to state ones opinion)

or

a paradox of those who seek liberty as a justification?

(tyranny of the majority)

]]> By: El Sordo http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2009/06/25/snippets/comment-page-1/#comment-796 El Sordo Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:53:32 +0000 http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/?p=670#comment-796 A rather interesting letter in one of the national's today from a Muslim man who has lived and worked in Saudi Arabia. He protests against the kow towing of politically correct western regimes to conservative Islamist factions (such as te Saudi's). He considers their form of Islam which includes things like the Burqa to be brainwashing. Describing himself as a liberal Muslim he stated that he chose to live in this country (the UK) because it afforded him the options of free choice that Saudi Arabia did not. Unfortunately he rather damages his claims thereafter when, no doubt in the name of free choice he called upon the British government to emulate the French proposals and to Ban the Burqa. See thats the strange thing about liberty and freedom. You either allow freedom or you pay lipservice to it. A rather interesting letter in one of the national’s today from a Muslim man who has lived and worked in Saudi Arabia. He protests against the kow towing of politically correct western regimes to conservative Islamist factions (such as te Saudi’s). He considers their form of Islam which includes things like the Burqa to be brainwashing.
Describing himself as a liberal Muslim he stated that he chose to live in this country (the UK) because it afforded him the options of free choice that Saudi Arabia did not.
Unfortunately he rather damages his claims thereafter when, no doubt in the name of free choice he called upon the British government to emulate the French proposals and to Ban the Burqa.

See thats the strange thing about liberty and freedom. You either allow freedom or you pay lipservice to it.

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