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		<title>By: El Sordo</title>
		<link>http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2009/02/04/thoughts-on-recent-news/comment-page-1/#comment-669</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In good news (i.e. sensible) the North Somerset NHS trust have asked the Christian Nurse to return to work.

They have also stated:
&quot;It is acceptable to offer spiritual support as part of care&quot;

(Perhaps they&#039;ve been reading this blog?)

They add what I consider a sensible compromise in caveat:
&quot;the initiative lies with the patient not with the nurse.&quot;

Thus hopefully the &#039;danger&#039; of causing offense or being seen to be evangelizing may be curbed. I do foresee one problem with this - what if the patient is too afraid to ask?

Sadly I&#039;m not convinced that the Nurse will take anything positive from this sorry episode. Her response has been:
&quot;It&#039;s very difficult for me not to ask patients if they want me to pray for them when I feel that prayer works for the sick.&quot;

As I noted in the post &quot;shall I pray for you&quot; is simply another idiomatic way of saying &quot;I hope you get better soon&quot; or &quot;I wish the best for you&quot; - which in theory is what the nurse should intent anyway.

But the problem seems to be with expressing it overtly.

I return to Eckhart then:
&quot;What is the prayer of the detached heart? I answer that detachment and purity cannot pray. For if anyone prays he asks God that something may be given to him, or asks that God may take something away from him. But the detached heart does not ask for anything at all, nor has it anything at all that it would like to be rid of. Therefore it is free from all prayer.&quot;

I fear that the nurse - though expressing an admirable benign good will towards her patients - may perhaps be too attached the idea that she herself can influence the Divine to assist the infirm. And once again I reaffirm that it is by providing good healthcare that she provides the most materially effective witness to her faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In good news (i.e. sensible) the North Somerset NHS trust have asked the Christian Nurse to return to work.</p>
<p>They have also stated:<br />
&#8220;It is acceptable to offer spiritual support as part of care&#8221;</p>
<p>(Perhaps they&#8217;ve been reading this blog?)</p>
<p>They add what I consider a sensible compromise in caveat:<br />
&#8220;the initiative lies with the patient not with the nurse.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus hopefully the &#8216;danger&#8217; of causing offense or being seen to be evangelizing may be curbed. I do foresee one problem with this &#8211; what if the patient is too afraid to ask?</p>
<p>Sadly I&#8217;m not convinced that the Nurse will take anything positive from this sorry episode. Her response has been:<br />
&#8220;It&#8217;s very difficult for me not to ask patients if they want me to pray for them when I feel that prayer works for the sick.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I noted in the post &#8220;shall I pray for you&#8221; is simply another idiomatic way of saying &#8220;I hope you get better soon&#8221; or &#8220;I wish the best for you&#8221; &#8211; which in theory is what the nurse should intent anyway.</p>
<p>But the problem seems to be with expressing it overtly.</p>
<p>I return to Eckhart then:<br />
&#8220;What is the prayer of the detached heart? I answer that detachment and purity cannot pray. For if anyone prays he asks God that something may be given to him, or asks that God may take something away from him. But the detached heart does not ask for anything at all, nor has it anything at all that it would like to be rid of. Therefore it is free from all prayer.&#8221;</p>
<p>I fear that the nurse &#8211; though expressing an admirable benign good will towards her patients &#8211; may perhaps be too attached the idea that she herself can influence the Divine to assist the infirm. And once again I reaffirm that it is by providing good healthcare that she provides the most materially effective witness to her faith.</p>
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		<title>By: El Sordo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Sordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Holocaust Denial Bishop (Update)
1- Pope has ordered him to &quot;recant&quot; in order to gain permission to assume his office. (A Positive move).
2- The Society of St Pius X (Traditionalists just readmitted to the Church) have been ordered to uneqeuivocally distance themselves from anti-semitism (Another good move).
3- A Senior Cardinal is quoted as saying that the Vatican has seriously mishandled this matter (&quot;A little revolution now and again is a good thing&quot;).
4- The German Bishops conference have declared a loss of confidence in the Pope (extraordinary).
5- The Curia (Vatican Civil Service) declare the Pope had been unaware of Bishop Williamsons anti-semitic views and holocaust denial... (Not good enough! Williamson has openly voiced his opinions on these matters since the late 1980&#039;s it is impossible that no-one in the Vatican was aware of this - anybody heard of wikipedia? - perhaps they could have looked up his facebook profile?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Holocaust Denial Bishop (Update)<br />
1- Pope has ordered him to &#8220;recant&#8221; in order to gain permission to assume his office. (A Positive move).<br />
2- The Society of St Pius X (Traditionalists just readmitted to the Church) have been ordered to uneqeuivocally distance themselves from anti-semitism (Another good move).<br />
3- A Senior Cardinal is quoted as saying that the Vatican has seriously mishandled this matter (&#8220;A little revolution now and again is a good thing&#8221;).<br />
4- The German Bishops conference have declared a loss of confidence in the Pope (extraordinary).<br />
5- The Curia (Vatican Civil Service) declare the Pope had been unaware of Bishop Williamsons anti-semitic views and holocaust denial&#8230; (Not good enough! Williamson has openly voiced his opinions on these matters since the late 1980&#8242;s it is impossible that no-one in the Vatican was aware of this &#8211; anybody heard of wikipedia? &#8211; perhaps they could have looked up his facebook profile?!)</p>
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