Comments on: Blair attacks civil liberties groups over terrorism http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2007/07/02/blair-attacks-civil-liberties-groups-over-terrorism/ Blogging on Philosophy and Politics Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:09:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: El Sordo http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2007/07/02/blair-attacks-civil-liberties-groups-over-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-247 El Sordo Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:14:11 +0000 http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2007/07/02/blair-attacks-civil-liberties-groups-over-terrorism/#comment-247 I paradoxically share a similar position to AC-1 here. However I do not laugh at nor find TB's comments against civil liberty groups to be risible. Merely because I believe that the notion that we have civil liberties of any sort is a fiction. The nation-state is an all consuming liberty eating machine. ID cards, extraordinary rendition, these have all occured before in the UK's history just under different guises. None of this is a justification of these abuses, purely a rebuke to armchair revolutionaries. Genuine freedom is something that often has to be bought or fought for and the price is often extreme. The abolition of the nation state as we know it will be the start of such freedom purchases. I paradoxically share a similar position to AC-1 here.
However I do not laugh at nor find TB’s comments against civil liberty groups to be risible.
Merely because I believe that the notion that we have civil liberties of any sort is a fiction. The nation-state is an all consuming liberty eating machine. ID cards, extraordinary rendition, these have all occured before in the UK’s history just under different guises.

None of this is a justification of these abuses, purely a rebuke to armchair revolutionaries. Genuine freedom is something that often has to be bought or fought for and the price is often extreme.
The abolition of the nation state as we know it will be the start of such freedom purchases.

]]> By: Anti Citizen One http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2007/07/02/blair-attacks-civil-liberties-groups-over-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Anti Citizen One Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:57:04 +0000 http://www.methodinit.org.uk/methodinit/2007/07/02/blair-attacks-civil-liberties-groups-over-terrorism/#comment-246 "Revised Patriot Act Will Make It Illegal To Read Patriot Act" - The Onion (satire) http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32312 “Revised Patriot Act Will Make It Illegal To Read Patriot Act” – The Onion (satire)

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